Areoflyer09
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Let me start by sharing that I haven’t been an “AR” guy. I probably won’t be able to answer every question asked and I’ll probably get terminology wrong as well. I’ve really not had a lot of love for the platform, I’ve typically preferred lever actions or bolt actions. That said, in the past few months I find myself in possession of two dedicated 22LR ARs, the Tippmann and the HK (Umarex) 416D, and I’m enjoying them a lot more than I did my last AR. Still trying to figure out what’s changed.
Over the weekend I’m hoping to be able to hit the range to test accuracy & get some quality year down pictures uploaded.
Easy enough to start with what I like/dislike about each.
Tippmann likes:
-Aluminum upper/lower, Goldilocks weight, decent factory trigger, decent factory sights, will accept most milspec parts, rails can be removed from the hand guard, 1/2x28 threads
Tippmann dislikes:
-finicky magazines, polymer handgaurd, acceptable accuracy
HK likes:
-Aluminum upper/lower, accuracy, decent trigger, magazines
HK dislikes:
-Weight, factory sights, limited customizability, sharp edges on the quad rail, non standard barrel threads, non captured take down pins
Currently I prefer the Tippmann.
The Tippmann has enough weight to feel right, rough guess would put it 1 1/2 pounds lighter than the HK. It’s much easier for both myself and my wife to handle for any length of time. The HK’s weight and quad rail make for a less pleasant experience the longer you hold it. If I decide to keep the HK, it will probably get a bi-pod.
The Tippmann has better sights and a better trigger from the factory, but the accuracy doesn’t seem to be quite as tight as he HK gives me. The accuracy is interesting, as the HK has a pencil barrel under a shroud compared to the .720” barrel on the Tippmann. This will be an experiment on one of the next range trips.
The HK has easier to use magazines, easy to load and they just work . The Tippmann’s magazines keep giving me nose dive issues on the first round, may have to reach out to Tippmann on this if it continues. The sliding cover is easy enough to use and I may appreciate that more when shooting outside instead of in the range.
Reliability gives he edge to the HK strictly because of the Tippmann’s magazines. Neither have failed to exect or fire, but if you don’t give the Tippmann’s mags a good tap on the bench the first round won’t pop up and it will fail to feed.
I know someone will ask, so here’s why I bought both of these instead of the more popular and cheaper SW MP 15-22. It comes down to the polymer basis of the SW. I like the feel of the aluminum based rifles more. The polymer based SW feels like a toy rifle I had growing up and I that he first thing I think of every pick one up. If I had found the Tippmann first, I probably wouldn’t have bought the HK.
Over the weekend I’m hoping to be able to hit the range to test accuracy & get some quality year down pictures uploaded.
Easy enough to start with what I like/dislike about each.
Tippmann likes:
-Aluminum upper/lower, Goldilocks weight, decent factory trigger, decent factory sights, will accept most milspec parts, rails can be removed from the hand guard, 1/2x28 threads
Tippmann dislikes:
-finicky magazines, polymer handgaurd, acceptable accuracy
HK likes:
-Aluminum upper/lower, accuracy, decent trigger, magazines
HK dislikes:
-Weight, factory sights, limited customizability, sharp edges on the quad rail, non standard barrel threads, non captured take down pins
Currently I prefer the Tippmann.
The Tippmann has enough weight to feel right, rough guess would put it 1 1/2 pounds lighter than the HK. It’s much easier for both myself and my wife to handle for any length of time. The HK’s weight and quad rail make for a less pleasant experience the longer you hold it. If I decide to keep the HK, it will probably get a bi-pod.
The Tippmann has better sights and a better trigger from the factory, but the accuracy doesn’t seem to be quite as tight as he HK gives me. The accuracy is interesting, as the HK has a pencil barrel under a shroud compared to the .720” barrel on the Tippmann. This will be an experiment on one of the next range trips.
The HK has easier to use magazines, easy to load and they just work . The Tippmann’s magazines keep giving me nose dive issues on the first round, may have to reach out to Tippmann on this if it continues. The sliding cover is easy enough to use and I may appreciate that more when shooting outside instead of in the range.
Reliability gives he edge to the HK strictly because of the Tippmann’s magazines. Neither have failed to exect or fire, but if you don’t give the Tippmann’s mags a good tap on the bench the first round won’t pop up and it will fail to feed.
I know someone will ask, so here’s why I bought both of these instead of the more popular and cheaper SW MP 15-22. It comes down to the polymer basis of the SW. I like the feel of the aluminum based rifles more. The polymer based SW feels like a toy rifle I had growing up and I that he first thing I think of every pick one up. If I had found the Tippmann first, I probably wouldn’t have bought the HK.