What would a 90%, all numbers matching, including stock, ( all cartouches are crisp and legible) all sling mounts, perfect action and bore, only no cleaning rod or bayonet be valued at? It has super nice blueing and very little blems in the steel. Stock has dents but not beaten up terribly.
1924 Yugoslavia Mauser
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mapsjanhere
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Big 5 was selling a batch of similar condition guns a couple months ago for $249. Probably a good starting point unless you can find something that makes your gun exceptional.
mapsjanhere
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The transition from 8x57I to 8x57 IS happened before WWI. AFAIK no new guns used militarily were made for the old cartridge after the war.
The bore size changed in 1905, so anything made after would be .323.
You rifle will shoot any commercial ammo marked "8mm Mauser" or "8X57JS" or "8X57 IS", or any available surplus if you can find it, or even new production military spec ammo.
Be advised, the US manufactured stuff is underpowered, and your rifle may shoot low.
You rifle will shoot any commercial ammo marked "8mm Mauser" or "8X57JS" or "8X57 IS", or any available surplus if you can find it, or even new production military spec ammo.
Be advised, the US manufactured stuff is underpowered, and your rifle may shoot low.
mapsjanhere
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Even if it does, don't bother. The Germans used the tight barrels with the new ammo just fine, the only thing they changed was the leade shape. And the Yugo army used standard 8x57 IS ammo from the beginning.
M1924 Yugo Mauser ? Not a "24/47" ? An original M1924, in 90 % condition ??? I find that very hard to believe.
Even the original M1924's were barreled with 0.323 (7.92 x 57 IS) barrels, let alone the post-WW2 24/47's. So, whichever model the rifle actually is, a 0.318 barrel is VERY VERY unlikely.....unless someone re-barreled the rifle. IF it is actually a 90 %, original M1924.....with a 0.318 barrel.....you've got a real unicorn. Literally, a one in a million.
As for ammo, DO NOT shoot 0.323 (7.92 x 57 IS) ammo through a 0.318 barrel, unless a super-weak load ! Even then, I wouldn't do it, though many have. Much of the US available 8mm Mauser ammo is loaded lightly, though using 0.323 bullets, for this very reason (as well as the reason of old rifles, of varying condition). Even then, I would not do it. IF you do have a 0.318 barrel, shoot 0.318 bullets....which will probably mean handloads. I doubt that you'll find 0.318 ammo - and not many 0.318 bullets for reloading, at that.
There are some around, but not cheap or common.
One possibility you will have, in order to do this safely and properly, is to load CAST bullets. An oversized cast bullet can be used safely, or oversized bullets sized down to fit. You can buy 0.321" diameter cast bullets and load them in 8mm Mauser cases, to make a workable load. These would still have to be loaded light though, as the cast bullets can't take as much velocity as jacketed.
Even the original M1924's were barreled with 0.323 (7.92 x 57 IS) barrels, let alone the post-WW2 24/47's. So, whichever model the rifle actually is, a 0.318 barrel is VERY VERY unlikely.....unless someone re-barreled the rifle. IF it is actually a 90 %, original M1924.....with a 0.318 barrel.....you've got a real unicorn. Literally, a one in a million.
As for ammo, DO NOT shoot 0.323 (7.92 x 57 IS) ammo through a 0.318 barrel, unless a super-weak load ! Even then, I wouldn't do it, though many have. Much of the US available 8mm Mauser ammo is loaded lightly, though using 0.323 bullets, for this very reason (as well as the reason of old rifles, of varying condition). Even then, I would not do it. IF you do have a 0.318 barrel, shoot 0.318 bullets....which will probably mean handloads. I doubt that you'll find 0.318 ammo - and not many 0.318 bullets for reloading, at that.
There are some around, but not cheap or common.
One possibility you will have, in order to do this safely and properly, is to load CAST bullets. An oversized cast bullet can be used safely, or oversized bullets sized down to fit. You can buy 0.321" diameter cast bullets and load them in 8mm Mauser cases, to make a workable load. These would still have to be loaded light though, as the cast bullets can't take as much velocity as jacketed.
Pound a soft lead round ball or fishing weight through the bore using a brass rod.
Then measure using a micrometer, not a caliper.
If you measured near the muzzle it may very well be undersized, not uncommon for rifles to get tighter near the muzzle if the barrel was manufactured and installed correctly.
Jimro
Then measure using a micrometer, not a caliper.
If you measured near the muzzle it may very well be undersized, not uncommon for rifles to get tighter near the muzzle if the barrel was manufactured and installed correctly.
Jimro
I have no idea of the value of a M1924 pre War Yugo. I have one. Due to the duffle bag cut on the stock, I think mine was a GI bring back.
What your pictures don't show, and what people don't know because original pre war M1924's are so rare, is that the pre war rifles are very well made. The flood of Communist rebuilds that came in are not representative of the quality of pre war rifles. In many cases the Communist rebuilds are rough and irregular. Sure they will go bang, but the fit and finish is inferior to the pre war.
I am going to say, based on the inspection of my rifle, that the original M1924's are as well built as any Mauser military rifle, showing precise machining, nice wood to metal fit.
What your pictures don't show, and what people don't know because original pre war M1924's are so rare, is that the pre war rifles are very well made. The flood of Communist rebuilds that came in are not representative of the quality of pre war rifles. In many cases the Communist rebuilds are rough and irregular. Sure they will go bang, but the fit and finish is inferior to the pre war.
I am going to say, based on the inspection of my rifle, that the original M1924's are as well built as any Mauser military rifle, showing precise machining, nice wood to metal fit.
FWIW, the problem of shooting a .323 bullet in the old rifles is not a matter of bore diameter, but of the neck of the old chamber being too tight for the larger cartridge neck to expand and release the bullet properly, with a consequent rise in pressure. All the Germans did to convert the old Model 1888 rifles to the new cartridge was to run in a new chambering reamer.
By 1924, no one was making military rifles for the old "j" cartridge; that Model 24, whether made in Belgium or in Yugoslavia (the left side marking will tell), was made for the standard German 7.9 (civilian 8x57js) cartridge.
Jim
By 1924, no one was making military rifles for the old "j" cartridge; that Model 24, whether made in Belgium or in Yugoslavia (the left side marking will tell), was made for the standard German 7.9 (civilian 8x57js) cartridge.
Jim