Update. Fired 3 different loads through 3 different smoothbore slug guns. Each gun has it's preference, and each shot good groups and poor ones. First was an Ithaca 37 pump, second was a Rem 1100, and third was a Browning A5 Light 12. All have 2 3/4 inch chambers. First load: AA hull, WW 209, WWAA12SL wad, 38.5 of AA#5. Ithaca 3 shots in 3 inches at 75 yds. Rem 1100 4 shots in 3 inches. A5 poorly- 12 inch all flyers. Second load;Fed GM hull, WW 209 primer, 41.5 AA#5, CB 2118-12 (FED 12S3) Ithaca 3 shots in 4 inches; Rem1100 2 shots in 2 inches with 1 flyer 6 inches away; A5 poorly, all 3 shots 8 inches apart all flyers. Third load Fed GM hull, WW 209 primer, 34.0 Herco, WAA12 wad;Ithaca poorly 3 shots all flyers 12 inches; Rem 1100 poorly 3 shots all 8 inches apart, A5 good- 3 shots in 4 inches evenly spaced. Will load some more for T&E and post results. Contacted Lee about wad substitution with loads and they referred me to Alliant; Alliant tech said Claybuster replacements for WWAA12. WWAA12SL, and CB2118-12 (12S3) should work without pressure problems as long as no other subs were made. So far so good. Hope this helps. CB.